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1543, question for shimano buffs
Posted by nemorino, Wed Jul-06-05 11:31 AM
Does anyone have a CU100B with the chronarch50 spool? Does it make a big difference? Also, does the chronarch50 cast control cap improve performace? or is it merely cosmetic?

Also, does anyone know if/when shimano will come up with the revamp version of the CU200B? It seems to me that shimano is making a lot of redesigns and would like to know if the curado will get an overhaul before I buy one.

I guess I can toss this one also here: given the choice between a TD Fuego and a ChronarchMG (last year's model) which would you take?

Btw, it sucks to lose a big fish due to a poor hookset! x(

1544, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by Tm Customs, Wed Jul-06-05 11:56 AM
Sonny,
I am mostly a daiwa guy. However I would not reccomend the Fuego it is not worth the money, just buy a TDZ best reel made IMO I have 6 of em. I also have a Antares, Calais, Scorpion 1001. The Scorpion is an "upgraded" curado it has a super free spool and a drag that can be adjusted w/ out taking off the cap. It also has a nicer handle like the calais. I got mine for 118.00 on ebay I would suggest just getting one there. I know people are gonna say dont buy it it cant be serviced, but it can I have sent Japanese reels back to daiwa and shmiano w/ out any problems before. Overall if you want the best lighest reel you can get, TDZ is the way to go. Calais is a nice reel but it's metal so it is like holding an ice cube in winter. I also like the way it fits in your hand and sits real low on the rod much better than the Chronarch. If you want a "upgraded" curado get a Scorpion off ebay.

Taylor-
1545, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by nemorino, Wed Jul-06-05 12:46 PM
Thanks for the reply. I do have a Daiwa Alpha and I love the low profile and everything else but at around 250 it is a bit expensive. With that said, the TDZ is WAY out of my league. :) Any particular reason why you don't like the fuego? Also, how low does the scorpion 1000 sit compared to the daiwa reels?

1546, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by Tm Customs, Wed Jul-06-05 01:40 PM
Sonny the Fuego just has cheap feel to me it does not feel like all the parts are as tight as lot of other reels. On the Scorpion it is a great little reel and a good price on ebay I have had no problems w/ service on mine. It is a good reel just does not get quite as long as a cast as a pixy or TDZ anyhow I like it and would reccomend it for the price.
1547, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by magmaster, Wed Jul-06-05 11:57 AM
The 50 Mg spool does fit and work in the 100B. It is expensive and it will increase performance due to it's lighter weight. This will enable the spool to reach higher sppeds with less energy resulting in a easier and possibly longer cast. It will also allow you to throw lighter baits with less effort.

All the new stuff is usually unvailed in July at the ICAST show in Las Vegas.I'm sure we'll hear about it soon
1548, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by zenbass_r, Wed Jul-06-05 01:08 PM
>Does anyone have a CU100B with the chronarch50 spool? Does it
>make a big difference? Also, does the chronarch50 cast control
>cap improve performace? or is it merely cosmetic?

here's mine:

http://img78.exs.cx/img78/2738/img17978al.jpg

i have 6# toray fluoro on the 50MG spool ... definitely helps when casting 3/16oz leadheads in the bays or surf.

as for the metal cast control cap, if you like to crank the drag star down it provides a little more clearance if you also run w/ the cast control backed off. other than that, purely cosmetic IMHO.

since i've already swapped out the stock shimao drag for a thicker carbon fiber drag washer, i don't have to tighten up the drag that much so i have plenty of clearance.

1549, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by magmaster, Wed Jul-06-05 01:22 PM
Actually TM the Chronarch 50 Mg is the lightest reel on the market currently. 5.9 ounces I think. Also just to let you guys know that there is NO warranty from Shimano on the Japanese model reels. So you may have been lucky in the past but I know they have been a little more strict lately.

Good luck in your decision with what reel to purchase. I recommend that you put the reel on a rod and see how it feels in your hand. Since you will be holding onto it for several hours a day.Make sure it's comfortable to you. I would lean more towards the Shimano but that's just me }(
1550, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by Tm Customs, Wed Jul-06-05 01:36 PM
Magmaster your wrong the Daiwa Pixy is 160 grams and the Daiwa R+ and IZE factory is 165 grams The Chronarch is 175 grams. The Chronarch is also very small I like the TDZ ize much better a full size reel w/ less weight. But for US reels the Chronarch is the lightest.
1551, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by , Wed Jul-06-05 03:02 PM
the Daiwa alpha ito weighs 5.9 ounces and has crazy lexan covers heres a pic.of it ,it compares to the pixy in many ways.
brian


http://www.calfishing.com/dc/user_files/3849-pictAlphaIto03.jpg


http://www.calfishing.com/dc/user_files/3850-pictAlphaIto10.jpg
1552, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by magmaster, Wed Jul-06-05 03:12 PM
I was refering to the US market, I could care less about the Japanese model stuff with the tiny handles. Grams? We're on the standard units of measure here buddy. Ounces is what we use here in the US
1553, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by Tm Customs, Wed Jul-06-05 03:21 PM
Tiny handles LOL there the same as the ones sold here, at least daiwa anyhow!!!! I was looking at www.platt.co.jp they only use grams
1554, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by nemorino, Thu Jul-07-05 10:29 AM
That's one sick looking curado 100! what handle is that? also, how much did you pay for the spool and the handle?

1555, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by egbass, Thu Jul-07-05 09:42 PM
For throwing lite lures and pitching the Chronarh spool upgrade and cleaning the bearings and then lubing them with rocket fuel made a big difference. My reel was over a year old when I made the upgrade. I wouldn't necessarily recommend upgrading a new or newer reel. Also, keep your line capacity in mind because the CU200 BSF costs less than a CU100 with the upgraded spool. Due to my smaller hands, I prefer the CU100s but have a need for the CU200s on the Delta when using heavier line. The cast control cap assy was out of stock when I bought the spool so I can't help you there but its cheap enough that I'm going to buy it when its available.
1556, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by magmaster, Fri Jul-08-05 07:52 AM
those are Chronarch 50 Mg parts for your info
1557, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by nemorino, Fri Jul-08-05 08:37 AM
the reason I want to do the upgrade on the spool is 1) I find the reel is rather slow to start when pitching. 2) I bought mine new at sport chalet for 89. I figure 89+50(spool) = 139. If just the spool upgrade will give me bsf like performance, it is well worth the money. Plus, i have small hands also and like to palm my reels and the 200 size is just a tad too big since I am used to daiwa.

btw, is there anyone besides heartland tackle that carries the spool?

1558, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by zenbass_r, Fri Jul-08-05 09:17 AM
cu-100b on clearance at sports authority, $40
50MG spool from shimano, $50
50MG handle assembly from shimano, $30
pair of ARB spool bearings from shimano, $20
carbon fiber drag washer, $1

tuned cu-100bSF (7.6oz) that weighs just a touch more than the daiwa fuego/sol, priceless ... :+
1559, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by nemorino, Fri Jul-08-05 11:26 AM
damn! too bad I didn't know about the sports authority price and it looks like they are sold out now. :( I would have bought 2 of them.

1560, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by egbass, Fri Jul-08-05 03:51 PM
Yeah, if I could get the small Curado for $89 (or less, my good I didn't think anyone would ever clear these out at $40) I wouldn't hesitate to buy the whiffle spool. I love the way it starts up on mine.
1561, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by bassnet, Fri Jul-08-05 07:49 PM
damn, 40 bones for the CU100B? That's an epic deal- I love that little reel! :D
1562, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by becca, Fri Jul-08-05 08:37 PM
Just bought my first two poles, anyone wanna go fishing this weekend? becca_321@msn.com
1563, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by becca, Sat Jul-09-05 08:37 AM
In Tracy (209)346-3042:)
1564, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by , Sat Jul-09-05 06:36 AM
at 40 for a cu i will take 3 ,that is a deal! Becca were are you located at?
brian
1565, RE: question for shimano buffs
Posted by cst, Sat Jul-09-05 08:13 PM
only bad thing about buying 3 curados is that you have to buy 3 rods to go with it :D