I have a rogue jr. swimbait and love it it is 7'9" and only weighs 4oz! I really dont like kistler at all I dont like not haveing a forgirp and dont really care for the rods at all the heliums are light but the custom series sucks because there very heavy! If your buying a rogue rod you are buying a very well priced rod w/ a custom feel if you buy a kistler you are simply buying a name!