I think some of you mis under stood me. I didnt say the Nemesis was as good as the Calias. It is not, but I can cast a little farther with it. I think the Nemesis compars with the Curado but the Nemesis casts farther and is more comfortable. Like I said before I havent actualy fished a VS but It felt realy smooth and tight. It honestly felt as good as my Calais. I know some of you guys are loyal to your brands and Shimano makes great products but I think you would be suprised at how nice the Okumas are and how much you get for your money.