i use the stand up type slip bobbers w/about 3 ft leader but i vary the leader depending on the depth between the surface and the weeds

you want your worm maybe 6 inches above weed line or thats where i seem to have best luck

and another thing the bite shuts off completly after the sun goes down

ill be out there again today it looks like after work around 5:30

ill post report tommorrow if i dont get skunked