Here's the secret....Seguar makes Cabelas NO-VIS flourocarbon for a big savings. When you spool it up. your fingers have an "oily" feel and not a white powder residue on your fingertips. This line casts has all the great characteristics of expensive flouro brands, you can feel the "tik" of a bite with controlled slack line. Dane is right in the matter of re-tying....all flourocarbon line needs to be looked afer continuously....once you convert, you'll never go back. You can get 400yd. spools for $15 up to 12lb. test, they offer it in 4-20lb. Good luck and "Don't tell anybody"!