I have fished them both a few times and have scored bass up to 4 pounds on 'crawlers, plastic worms, rattletraps, 'blades and flylined 'gills. It's a private lake so dfg doesn't apply as far as I know. The guard guy does come around asking for your association key. I have several friends living there, so no prob for me--just don't live near anymore. There is/was a confirmed 8 pounder in the north lake, put there by the tennis pro after he caught it at Tewinkle.