Phil, thanks for the info, If you see a little 12 footer pull up its me. Thanks to this website (i'm a new user) I have had many offers for used trolling motors and advise from people who know a lot about boats. I have been hesitant to ask for help but thanks to people like yourself. It makes it a lot easier for me to do it right the first time....I'll be sure to post up some pics when I get done with it.......Warren