:) Thanks for the advice! I have tried using sandcrab a little, but I really have no idea how to hook the little bastards! I always end up killing them, or tearing them in half before they even hit the water. I have goten a few perch off of them, but it really frustrates me too much and usually makes me go back to grubs! Is there a good website/picture you can get me on a good way to hook a sandcrab? Thanks again for the tips!

Warren