I noticed that over the last few years the use of plastic grubs and now swimtails in the surf has grown quite fast, and from wuat i read here on the posts a lot of people use them almost exclusively. but have never heard anything about hard baits, does anybody out there use or has used plugs (topwaters, cranks...)in the surf?, if so which size, tipe and pattern produced? as much as I ejoy the plastics and iron jigs, to me nothing beats watching a surface plug get hammered.