Wow we dont have those kind down here. That is a big dad. I do know that the famous dad fisherman used the little ones. Bill Murphy, Bob Crupi, Tad Kodata all uses little 3in dads. However they all fished So Cal and like I said, the dads arent that big down here. I dont think that matters though because the big ones down here are still good sized and all those guys preached small dads.