You guy's are right I dont like Nathan and that is not the reason I do not like his BG either it has nothing to do w/ that I just plain dont like the shape of the bait dont like the fur and dont like the tail set up personally I dont own one but my friend mike does and I have casted it a few times. I am not bashing Nathans lure making abilities he is definatley good am I was envious of his RAT that thing is sweet.