I accidentally acquired an ROF 0 the other day. So this weekend Im out fishing throwing the ROF 12 and I stumble into a shallow fish bite. I had to kinda burn the ROF 12 while keeping my rod tip high, I lost three nice fish doing this (it was totally cool watching a large fish try to kill my bait in 2 foot crystal clear water on three consecutive casts). IMO, I lost those fish because I was realling too fast and they just werent getting the bait in their mouth.
So I threw the ROF 0. I was surprised to find that it sits a little too high in the water, such that upon a slow retrieval the tail does not waggle, in fact it does nothing, comes straight through the water like a stick. The fish wanted nothing to do with the ROF 0 (and I dont have a 5).
So here is the question. Has anybody tried to tweek the 0 so it sits low enough in the water that its tail waggles during a very slow retrieve? At this point the only thing the 0 seems good for is deadsticking and I dont deadstick. Any suggestions on this or general thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
#6194, "RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0" In response to Reply # 0
If you look at the bttom of the bait on the belly you'll see a small hole. What I did was use a thin drop shot weight, 3/16 ounce. I pulled the swivle off and jammed it in there and glued the hole shut, now it's a 5. Hope that helped
#6195, "RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0" In response to Reply # 1
Yeah, that helps. The one thing Im concerned about is if I do that does the bait still remain horizontal in the water? I dont want a nose up or tail down thing going on.
And I know I can play with weighting on my own to see what works best, but if I can avoid tearing my bait up and save some time through others experiences, thats the way I want to go. In other words, thanks for the suggestions.
#6199, "RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0" In response to Reply # 4
Those guys are right. You need to place your weights emediatlty above and behind the metal loop on the belly to balance the bait. This is were the weihting is on the Rof5 So as log as you put them in straight it should fall leval.
#6203, "RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0" In response to Reply # 5
I had the same problem, but I noticed that after a few casts, the little holes in the bait fill up w/ a bit of water and the bait starts to sit just a bit lower, and will kick when retrieved. I did not want to weight mine because I like to be able to deadstick it on top. Also, if I put the rod tip underwater, I can get it to swim about 6 inches down.
#6204, "RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0" In response to Reply # 6
If you use a dropshot or mojo weight, you could attach a short piece of line to the weight before you insert it. Just leave 1/2" or so sticking out of the hole. That way you can easily remove it if you need to. It won't affect the action and isn't big enough to bother the fish
#6209, "Great ideas, thanks guys!" In response to Reply # 7
Several comments. I did stick my rod in the water to try and achieve slight depth. I still had to reel too fast, and on long casts even that wouldnt work until the bait was somewhat close. Plus, I wasnt sure I would be able to set the hook if I got bit.
Matt, you suggest putting a weight both fore and aft of the stinger harness? Guess that means I have to poke a hole in the bait, right?
What Im gonna do is fill a bucket full of water, then attach mojo weights first by rubber bands until I achieve what I want. Then Ill insert them into the hole! I really dont want to poke a new hole in the bait since I would then have to seal it, and my 0 will never be a 0 again.
Great idea about the fishing line and removal.
What Id really like to do is find some tungsten nail weights, the smaller size likely would be easier on the bait during insertion, plus they wouldnt add unneccessary bulk to the bait.
#6212, "RE: Great ideas, thanks guys!" In response to Reply # 8
Nail weights wont hurt your bait and you should be able to remove them easily with a little preasure. What ever weight you choose they need to be as close to the little metal ring on the belly because that is were the weight is located on the other Rof's
#6217, "Heres what I did" In response to Reply # 9
I wanted the ROF 0 to fall very slowly, even much slower than the 5, so here is what I did.
I took mojo weights, and some slender drop shot weights with the swivels removed (the only things I had at home, others things would have been better). I filled a bucket of water to the top, then wrapped a rubber band around the middle of the bait. Next, I experimented with weights putting them under the rubber band on the belly. First finding, these baits are very sensitive to even slight weight changes. Once I found the amount of weight I wanted, I then took the rubber band off. I found that even the weight of the rubber band influenced the fall of the bait. Thus, I started over by taping each weight to the belly with as small a piece of scotch tape as possible. Be careful, I found that the scotch tape will pull some of the paint off the bait.
Turns out, I had to take pliers and very carefully remove A LITTLE lead at a time to achieve exactly what I wanted. Once I had the weight I wanted I lubbed it up with smelly jelly to avoid tearing the bait during insertion. I found that there is no room to push the weight through the hole and towards the tail. To do so you will have to push the weight through solid plastic. So what I had to do was push the weight through the hole towards the head, and it now sits to one side of the factory weight, you can not perfectly center this weight. The weight has deformed the bait slightly, but even though the weight sits to one side, the bait falls horizontally. And, the weight is easily removed, you can push it around with your fingers through the plastic. I did not seal the hole, although I may after I see how the bait fishes.
Sorry this is long, Im procrastinating like a big dog at work today. Im very happy with the results, cant wait to throw it this weekend. Thanks to all for the input.