Finally giving an update. I used the Hud shads in the spring on some area lakes and didn't get bit but a couple of short strikes. I gave up until yesterday. I was fish a clear lake and said to myself this just has to work here. Well I was right. I had 5 hits and two fish in the boat. I think I will have to put a treble in the tail because I missed fish with the tail folding over. I will be on the phone to order more. Thanks for all your help.