Yes David, all I had was the old "human scale" and according to it, it was 8 pounds. And Calicokid, I totally agree with you about releasing the big bulls and only keeping the "just legals" which is normally what I do. However, I fished those rocks about 15 times this summer for very little, so I felt entitled to that fish. Definitely bittersweet though as I know that fish was at least 20 years old...if I ever get one like that again I'll probably release it.