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Matt PetersThu Sep-25-08 06:19 AM
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#10618, "Pushing the envelope"


          

With Matt Servant's rod coming that is designed to throw baits upwards of 2 pounds, and just the trend of bigger is better...

I was thinking, what is the most extreme bigbait fishing you could possibly do?

I can't be the only guy to ever think about how you could make a bait that was a baby seal. Like a 2 foot long bait, with some inflatable bladder, that was a giant topwater bait. It would have to be castable, but you get the idea..a seal topwater bait. Take that bait and go fish the Farallon Islands or those S. African island where the Great White Sharks blast seal out of the water. You know what I'm talking about? I don't know if it would be realistic to think you could land a White shark on rod/reel that could cast a bait like the one I'm thinking about, but just to get the bite and hookup would be....well, pushing the envelope.

You would definitely want to tether yourself to the boat, so the bite wouldn't yank you in the water!!!!

What is the most extreme application of bigbait fishing you can think of?

  

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ChaozuThu Sep-25-08 09:02 PM
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#10622, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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You hit it right on the money! I had that idea before too after watching some show where the great whites were just blasting a dummy seal. They were just trolling it behind a boat and I thought, tie that thing to a rod and real! How awesome would that be to land a great white shark like that? Watching him explode on the seal and then fight that beast!

Here's a video I seen today of a guy fishing for marlin on a jet ski.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNAJw1IOtcM

  

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swimbaitThu Sep-25-08 09:24 PM
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#10624, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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Thu Sep-25-08 09:25 PM by swimbait

  

          

I would want to get the bite with the shark, but I wouldn't be super in to reeling it in and unhooking it :9

From talking to Mark about Muskies, I'd have to say that sounds like pretty rad big bait fishing to me. Probably the coolest thing you can do in North America in terms of big, super knarly strikes.

Peacock bass come to mind. There's a fish called a barramundi in Australia that eats the swimbait too. Mike Kennedy went down there many years ago and sent me pics of some barramundi they got on Big Hammers. It sounded fun. These dudes in Europe catch those huge wels catfish on Hammers too, you can see it on swimbait.com in the gallery. Those fish look like they would eat a big lure.

Ocean obviously has some 'extreme' big bait fishing. But I don't have super strong respect for stuff like marlin. I mean, any fish that will come within 50 feet of a moving boat to eat a neon pink mop is maybe not the hardest fish to entice. And then you fight it all strapped in to a chair. That stuff is more glory fishing in my mind. Like if you are there on the right day, any tourist could be a superstar of marlin fishing.

I do think that trevally could be sick. They eat fast moving foot long pencil poppers in shallow water over coral reefs. Used to watch it on TV when I was a kid with Harry Hojima (sp) on "Let's go Fishing". Those fish would eat an Eagle or anything you cared to burn on top. You could get some good footage getting cornholed by those things in the rocks too :)

When you find the most extreme big bait fishing, call me so I can come.

  

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magmasterFri Sep-26-08 09:58 PM
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#10626, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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Casting a live Mack to a swordfish and having it bite is my ultimate "big bait" goal :)

Marlin fishing is not always trolling Rob. Bait and switch is usefull and casting live bait at surface feeders is really cool too. It actually takes some skill to heave a 12-16" bait at a Marlin.

The other fish I would like to catch is the the Golden Dorado. Now that looks really fun!

  

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MattluresFri Sep-26-08 10:41 PM
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#10629, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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I think a big tarpon on a swimbait would be pretty cool.
I also saw a fishing show where they were catching nile perch. These fish looked very similar to LMB ony 5x bigger. and they were catching them on big saltwater Rapalas. They even jumped just like LMB.

www.mattlures.com

  

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petey peteFri Sep-26-08 11:22 PM
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#10630, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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Knowing my luck I think I'll just use it as is. This bait is actually my second one. The first one is at the bottom of San Pablo dam. Getting this second one cost me an arm and a leg so all that modding might depreciate the value of the bait even tho I'll never sell it}( thanks for the input fellas.

Petey Pete

  

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petey peteFri Sep-26-08 11:23 PM
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#10631, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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lol wrong thread

Petey Pete

  

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JerryGMon Sep-29-08 10:56 PM
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#10637, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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>Casting a live Mack to a swordfish and having it bite is my
>ultimate "big bait" goal :)
>
>Marlin fishing is not always trolling Rob. Bait and switch is
>usefull and casting live bait at surface feeders is really
>cool too. It actually takes some skill to heave a 12-16" bait
>at a Marlin.
>
>The other fish I would like to catch is the the Golden Dorado.
>Now that looks really fun!


I've thrown big mackerel on a few sunning swordies but have never found one that wanted to go. Even landed a mac right on top of one but still no interest. I've been told by local veteran anglers that in our local waters (socal/ North Baja) the ratio of sunning swordies that end up bitting is about 1 in 100. I've also been told that swordies have a much harder time resisting an offering of giant squid.

Marlin on the other hand are far more eager. Throw a mac on a marlin and chances are it will be instant. They seem to take the bait just about everytime. Even saw a guy hook one on a surface iron once. Luckly the it broke before it started jumping. It could have easily thrown that jig back at the guy at high velocity.

One time when I was on a long range trip and we had some smaller (2-3lbs) pelagic squid float under the lights one night. We put some in on of the tanks and the next day we used them catch yellowfin. The yellowfin were 75 lbs at best but they would still take down a 2lbs squid. You couldn't cast the squid it was just too heavy. We were pinning them on 9/0 hook and dropping over the side. Once your squid drifted about 50 yards from the boat it would get picked up and you really had to let the tuna eat it. Those were the biggest baits I have ever fished. Not a lure but still a lot of fun none the less.

Jerryg

  

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deepsessionsTue Sep-30-08 06:03 PM
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#10638, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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extreme is subjective but I'd say your spot on with the seal wake bait off the farallons....you might need to toss that bad boy on some kevlar rope hooked to a 10,000lb winch though!

my dreams are of Niugini Bass,South American Golden Durado and Wolfies,African Nile Perch,and probably Tarpon...Dahlberg has set the curve!

  

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Team StriperMon Nov-17-08 12:24 PM
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#10752, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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Massive Cubera Snappers & Jacks in Panama on 12" poppers.
The only problem is you have to work the popper on spinning gear.





  

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dockboyThu Nov-20-08 11:52 PM
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#10763, "RE: Pushing the envelope"
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I was watching the Great Whie thing about South Africa and thinking the same friggin thing! That would just be incredible. I like marlin fishing. The troll is boring, but the fight is well worth, IMO. We got about a 130lb blue off Kauai this July during vacation. I fougt him a bit in the chair, but I spent a large chunk of the fight doing stand up just for the heck of it. It was pretty friggn awesome doing standup marlin.

Bass + Fisherman= BAASS ADDICTT!!!

  

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