RE: Heavy action rods,
woodsac,
Sep 02nd 2004, #1
RE: Heavy action rods,
Jdub,
Sep 02nd 2004, #2
RE: Heavy action rods,
woodsac,
Sep 02nd 2004, #3
RE: Heavy action rods,
Jdub,
Sep 02nd 2004, #4
RE: Heavy action rods,
aparsons,
Sep 02nd 2004, #5
RE: Heavy action rods,
swimbait,
Sep 02nd 2004, #6
RE: Heavy action rods,
woodsac,
Sep 02nd 2004, #7
RE: Heavy action rods,
swimbait,
Sep 02nd 2004, #8
RE: Heavy action rods,
Jdub,
Sep 02nd 2004, #9
RE: Heavy action rods,
Criley,
Sep 02nd 2004, #10
RE: Heavy action rods,
aparsons,
Sep 03rd 2004, #11
RE: Heavy action rods,
Samurai TI,
Sep 03rd 2004, #12
RE: Heavy action rods,
aparsons,
Sep 03rd 2004, #13
RE: Heavy action rods,
Jdub,
Sep 03rd 2004, #14
RE: Heavy action rods,
Criley,
Sep 03rd 2004, #15
RE: Heavy action rods,
billythekidd44,
Sep 04th 2004, #16
RE: Heavy action rods,
Jdub,
Sep 04th 2004, #17
RE: Heavy action rods,
aparsons,
Sep 04th 2004, #18
RE: Heavy action rods,
billythekidd44,
Sep 04th 2004, #19
RE: Heavy action rods,
aparsons,
Sep 04th 2004, #21
RE: Heavy action rods,
Senkler,
Sep 04th 2004, #20
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woodsac | Thu Sep-02-04 02:49 PM |
Member since Jul 17th 2002
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#22835, "RE: Heavy action rods"
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Almost all the difference in the world. The other thing to consider is your line. Try and use a line with little to no stretch in it. You'd be surprised in the difference the line can make.
When I'm flippn, I use a Kistler 7'6" Heavy rod and 50 lb P-Line Spectrex braid.
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woodsac | Thu Sep-02-04 03:13 PM |
Member since Jul 17th 2002
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#22837, "RE: Heavy action rods"
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Go with whatever rod is comfortable. If a 7-6 feels too long, go with a 7. When I first started using rods longer then 6 or 6-6 it was awkward. But now, I only buy 7 ft and up.
If you want to use the same setup for topwater, don't use braid or fluorocarbon. They both sink. I think that would be a hard combo though. It depends on how thick the vegetation is you're fishing. If it's thick-thick, don't use less then 20 lb. But, I don't recommend using that same 20 lb for topwater. Get what I'm saying?
The braid will work for frogs, but the rod (depending on what you get) will probably be too stiff for other topwater. Some gear set-ups just can't be used for multiple situations effectively.
I hope that's not too confusing?
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aparsons | Thu Sep-02-04 03:58 PM |
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#22839, "RE: Heavy action rods"
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I've been using Power Pro, which is pretty good braid. I'd think you could get away with 30# for flipping. I also use a fluorocarbon leader, 15 - 20#. I initially had some problems breaking off on the hookset until I learned to ease up. You really don't have to slam the fish on the hookset - a sharp lift of the rod has been plenty for me.
I've been flipping with a 7'6" & 6'6" rod. In really tight quarters, like under overhanging trees, the shorter stick is easier to handle. But, for flipping tules, the longer rod is good. You have more leverage & can flip farther.
As far as the topwater, braid is the only way to go for frogs. I've also been using it for buzzbaits, although some guys, like Scott Green at the Pro Shop, tell me they hate it for buzzbaits. On the other hand, he says Gary Dobyns recommended braid to him for them. So, like a lot with fishing, it probably boils down to personal preference.
Good luck at Spring Lake! I'm going to try to get out there Sunday afternoon/early evening.
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swimbait | Thu Sep-02-04 04:05 PM |
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#22840, "RE: Heavy action rods"
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One other thing to think about. When you hold your rod while working a jig, are you holding it close to your body or far out? You'll get more power on the hookset if you hold the rod closer in to your body. If you fish with the rod in your left hand, imagine that you are holding a rolled up newspaper under your left arm when you're working the jig. That's the right arm position. It's important to have a strong hookset, but the set should also be really quick. I like to set back over my right shoulder about 45 degrees. I'll only set straight up and down if the fish is very close to the boat or underneath me. I want the hook to penetrate the roof of the mouth, but slightly off center. If you can hook a bass half way between the top of the mouth and the corner of the mouth, that's a good spot to hook them. On big fish, if you hook them in the roof of the mouth, they can shake off sometimes because it's very hard to get the hook completely through their head. On fish under 5lbs, it's not too hard, but on 10lbers it is. If you set the hook every time like it's a 10lber, then you'll be less likely to screw up if you actually do get hit by a 10lber.
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woodsac | Thu Sep-02-04 04:51 PM |
Member since Jul 17th 2002
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#22841, "RE: Heavy action rods"
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Rob, good advice about the relationship of the rod to your body. When you do something a lot, you forget to mention some of the small details like that because it's just habit once you have the rod in your hands.
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Jdub | Thu Sep-02-04 06:39 PM |
Member since May 29th 2004
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#22845, "RE: Heavy action rods"
In response to Reply # 8
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Thanks everyone for all the replies, and i just ordered a flipping stick. 7'6 H. Thats a really good explination Rob, but i really think its my pole. Ive tried everything. Also, if i hook a fish,which is like 1 out of 20, then the pole gives to much and they go straight into the cover and i lose them. But back to the pole. I think im going to load it up with 17# mono to start (never broken 17# test, but when i do ill switch that too). Also, Aparsons, i will mostlikely be out there sunday too, im either in an ODC 816, or a little U tube. Hope to see u there.
Thanks everyone for the inputs, Jdub
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Criley | Thu Sep-02-04 07:59 PM |
Member since May 20th 2004
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#22847, "RE: Heavy action rods"
In response to Reply # 9
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7' medium heavy rod, 17lb fluorocarbon, i have 3 setups like this and to me its the best all around combo you can have, i throw jigs, topwater, frogs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, senkos etc. just about all you need after this is a crankin rod and a dropshot rod and you got what you need, a medium action rod won't do much for you besides crankin and rippin in my opinion.
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