seems that the old guy hops in on about every trip available, I recall seeing one and sometimes He's along with a buddy on quite a few trips. On one outing about two years ago, the grumpy thing cast out right behind me to boiling tuna, which is fine by me, the problem was that I was right in front of him and in the process of the cast he managed to clip me right in the back of the head with the rod butt, and to make things even better I dont think he even noticed the fact that he managed to toss my cap oberboard with the whack, no I'm sorry or anything, he just proceeded to force his way in the line as opposed as taking the end of the line and waiting to be rotated in position.