Thanks for the reply. Sounds like an ideal spot to fish at with my pram. I noticed you were catching 'cuda. Are they typically just the shorts - or do you have a chance to get a good sized log? I like to fly fish and don't use wire leaders. If they're just shorts, I rarely have a problem with break offs because I use 10 lb. flouro as a leader. The bigger fish can bust me off, and I hate to lose flies.