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JigngerrMon Apr-07-03 07:22 AM
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#9149, "San V 4-6....."


          

Fished open to close for 20 or so fish. Started with a jig and got better fish on it. Also threw the swimbait for a few followers with no hook-ups. Jerkbait bite was not too good with only 3 on it. Got fish on the drop-shot too. I'm sure the wind from Sat. pretty much cooled off the bite. Didn't go bedfishing....could have caught fish everywhere doing that but I'll pass. The outside bite should pick up again.......

Gerryjig out

  

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RE: San V 4-6....., socalfrogger, Apr 07th 2003, #1
RE: San V 4-6....., Taylor, Apr 07th 2003, #2
RE: San V 4-6....., bassinator kid, Apr 07th 2003, #3
      RE: San V 4-6....., socalfrogger, Apr 08th 2003, #4
How Do You Fish The Dropshot, chuckwagon, Apr 08th 2003, #5
      RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot, RODSNAPPER, Apr 10th 2003, #6
           RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot, Kellen, Apr 11th 2003, #7
                RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot, socalfrogger, Apr 11th 2003, #8
                RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot, Kellen, Apr 11th 2003, #9
                     RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot, socalfrogger, Apr 11th 2003, #10
                RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot, RODSNAPPER, Apr 11th 2003, #11
                     RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot, chuckwagon, Apr 16th 2003, #12

socalfroggerMon Apr-07-03 02:34 PM
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#9158, "RE: San V 4-6....."
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I also fished there on Sun. For me, I just threw the swimbait all day. I was very dissapointed in the fact that I only landed one of the 6 bites I got. It was a healthy 5-6lb fish, but some of the others were a little bigger. One of these days!!!!!!

Anyways, the dropshot bite there is a no-brainer. Just put the boat on the shore and cast out as far as you can. Usually the first 4 or 5 casts will priduce 4 or 5 fish and then just move to the next point. Senkos, spinnerbaits, and of course all the bed fish you can handle, if your into raping males off of beds. Shoots, I even saw bass and trout busting shad for a little while in the morning. Ran into a couple buddies in the afternon and they were a little more fortunate. Their swimbait fish stuck and they both had almost 25lb sacks. The club tournament was won with 16lbs.

What more can I say.....San V is just off the hook. And the fish are healthy!

Cam

  

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TaylorMon Apr-07-03 03:26 PM
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#9161, "RE: San V 4-6....."
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San V is off the hook. I just think back two months ago in that period of getting three bites a day fishing in 50-70 ft and now it is just amazing. The dropshot bite there is flat out sick. You don't even need to bed fish to fill your bag. You can do a number of different things. And the quality is good. Four pounders and five pounders are the norm. Thanks for the report and I highly recommend San V to everyone. It wont dissapoint. Good luck.

T

  

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bassinator kidMon Apr-07-03 03:56 PM
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#9162, "RE: San V 4-6....."
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socalfrogger,

where did you see the bass and trout busting shad?
what kind of swimbait were you throwing?
i'll be there on thursday or friday.

thanks

  

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socalfroggerTue Apr-08-03 08:47 AM
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#9180, "RE: San V 4-6....."
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Check out Barona!!!!!

After the wind blew for a couple hours the trout were no where to be seen, but when I threw my trout bait out, it looked like there was a submarine under it on several casts. They were very hot and I had a couple bite but didnt stick them. It was a very bad day for the bite/hook-up ratio. I was 1 for 6!!!!TERRIBLE!!!

Just look for the dirty water and your in there, fish hard and if you dont get a follow for an hour and dont get bit for 2 hours, keep throwing it!!!!!!!!!!!!you will get bit at San V if you throw it long enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Later
Cam

  

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chuckwagonTue Apr-08-03 09:24 AM
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#9181, "How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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Would you explain how the drop shot is fished. I read that you cast and wiggle?

  

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RODSNAPPERThu Apr-10-03 07:11 PM
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#9205, "RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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My club tourney was there Sat. 18+ won it. I had 3 fish for 8.6lbs and a 4lb Kicker (Senko!). Farmed 2!!!!! One was definately good as it broke off my d-shot just after the hook set.(Kind of shocked me with 6lb P-line!)

WINDY! No swim-bait fish, but got tail bit on my 3rd cast early.

To answer your question about how to fish the D-shot:
1.) Cast as far as you can
2.) Let go to the bottom.
3.) Gently lift the rod tip (Sometimes they eat it on the way down, if you feel pressure, or it feels mushy or heavy....SWING!)

4.) I basically fish it like a T-rig....Pull it about 2 Feet.....Shake!........Pull it 2 Feet.....Repeat back to the boat.

Hope this helps, and like everyone above said...SAN V D-SHOT IS SICK RIGHT NOW!

"ROD"

  

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KellenFri Apr-11-03 09:30 AM
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#9215, "RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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I have to expand on what Rod said here. I would fish it much slower then what he said most of the year. Although right now it probably doesnt matter. But if you want to maximize the bites, slow down a bit. Unless you are fishing where youre not sure if there are fish, and there is a steady bite. The drop shot was 'invented' to be fished vertically. The whole purpose of this rig is to be able to move the bait around alot without moving the weight and its location. If youre fishing on isolated structure, cast it out on top of the structure, pick up the slack, shake the tip a couple inches without moving the weight. Let it sit 15-30 seconds (yes this seems like an eternity) and then shake a bit again. Let it sit again, then drag it slowly polishing the rocks youre on, let it sit, shake, let is sit, shake, and then move a little more. This probably seems tedious, but if youre on the fish, and they arent biting all that willingly you need to slow it down.

Good boat position, a good angle on the structure you are working, and a good presentation will get bit year round doing this.

But what do I know...Ive only caught a little bit more then 200 fish so far this year drop shotting. And yeah, Im also just 18...so take it for what its worth.

BTW...if youre fishing quite a bit of distance away from the boat and in fairly shallow water its a good idea to set the hook up, instead of a low sweeping hook set like you might be tempted to do. Get that line off the rocks before you and the fish start tugging on eachother. That may have been what happened to you on that fish Rob?

Take Care,
Kellen Ellis

  

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socalfroggerFri Apr-11-03 10:35 AM
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#9216, "RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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If your fishing the drop shot with a little nose hook, DONT SET THE HOOK when you get bit. Just reel the fish on and then sweep your rod tip to turn their heads. That will be plenty enough force to pull them off the rocks. Plus, you dont want to risk that initial shock of the hookset breaking the 6lb and lighter line. If your rigging the worm weedless on the drop shot, then you might want to give enough hookset to get the hook through the plastic like a normal texas rig.But, everyone has their own style, this is just coming form 12 years of tournament experience and 4 Angler of the Year Titles.


See Ya out there, I got Otay this Sat., its going to take 20+lbs!!!!:)

Cameron

  

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KellenFri Apr-11-03 11:33 AM
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#9218, "RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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Exactly Cam, I didnt mean to make it sound like you were trying to rip the fish' lips off. I assumed people would realize the tackle they are using. I just meant to get the tip up, instead of to the side like many tend to do.

But yeah, I do pull on the fish a little when I get a bite, I dont swing but I make sure I get the hook in. I fish 4 lb Maxima at San Vee, and use a pretty light drag so that I dont pop that knot. My biggest problems with it has been losing big fish 8+ types that I cant keep from jumping. I havnt broke any off on the hook set in the last couple years, but have lost a couple fish on the top on that initial jump. Including 2 berthas in the 2nd SD ABA at San Vee this year that would have gave Mike's bag a run.

Good luck tomorrow

  

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socalfroggerFri Apr-11-03 11:37 AM
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#9219, "RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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I'm sure I will see you there.

I will come up and say Hi if I see you!

Good luck to you as well, its going to be a fun day.

Cam

  

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RODSNAPPERFri Apr-11-03 12:29 PM
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#9220, "RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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Very well put indeed. I completely concur with your statement, especially the slowing down part.

The funny thing that happened to me was, the D-shot fish last weekend were SO AGRESSIVE, that if you are not tuned into their attack on the bait, they smacked it and left. On the one I broke off, he hit it on the way down, started swimming off with it, and when I set on him he dove forcefully and snapped off. I also had my drag Buttoned, which was an oversight on my part due to the use of light line.

In deep water with little structure to hang up on I use a Yamamoto Split shot hook (#6 or #4) and nose hook the bait.

At San Vee, with all of the grass and rock, if you nose hook, you'll hang up. I was using a #2 Gamakatsu G-Lock hook and tex-posing the bait for this application. I also love the Owner Rig n Hook for this.
(Yes, I'm a student of John Morrow!)

As frogger mentioned, you don't set on the nose hook/mosquito style, just let the Rod load up and maintain taught pressure.

I have been setting the tex-posed hook just like I would T-rig fishing. My screw-up happened when I realized my drag was buttoned. I'm fairly confident that I would not have broke off if I would have had a lighter drag setting, so I could have "BUNGEE'D" The fish.
(I knew it was a good fish too! although the fight was on for only 3 or 4 seconds!)

I also found that the fish were relating more to the bottom, and I got bit more with a 4-6 inch leader above the weight.

Also, no offense against P-Line green, but I'm convinced I had a bad batch/spool. I just had fresh line spooled on my Chronarch SF, and I even inspected ALL of my Rod guides to see if I was nicking the line that way. I was back-lashing like never before, and when I went to pull out the lash, the line would fray and nick. I gave up and switched reels to 8lb after I retied about 10 times. That may have had something to do with it.

I also have a very funny story to tell about a 3lb trout I hooked there. Look for the details in my next post.

Thanks for the great words, and Thanks to Cam also (Frogger!)

Peace My Brothers!

"ROD"

  

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chuckwagonWed Apr-16-03 01:44 PM
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#9318, "RE: How Do You Fish The Dropshot"
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Great info, thanks. Just got around to reading all the posts.

  

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