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CJ | Sat Nov-15-03 10:53 PM |
Member since Nov 02nd 2001
335 posts
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#3226, "Big Bait Secrets"
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Ok here's the deal. I just got finished reading the new Bass West USA or whatever mag and there was a big spread about a lot of accomplished big bait anglers sharing their most valued secrets. Now some of the tips were interesting, while others were pure B.S. but it made me wonder. How willing are experienced anglers to share thier big bait secrets? We all know that there are things that we do with our baits and approaches that we believe give us an advantage over the competition and the bass. I also know that many of us hold these secrets deep inside, covering our tracks and submerging our baits when others come by. How willing are you to share just one of your secrets? The one thing about sites like Calfishing is that there is often better information and knowledge here than you're likely to find in any print publication. It would be interesting to see how far we can push the envelope, I think the audience here includes some of the better big bait fishermen in the state, so the secret stash is definetly a deep well.
Ok, so many of you know my Pro-Rig Osprey(originally my own big bait secret rig) but I'm willing to get the party started by publicily exposing another big bait secret. I paint my hooks. That's right, I'm so paranoid by the color of my bronze Gamakatsu's that I've gone to nickel Gamas and coat then with white spinnerbait blade dye. I get my Ospreys special poured, creating a very wide, white bottom. I believe that the white color is the hardest for bass from below to get a beat on, encouraging them to rush the bait, not knowing if it's for real or not. White silhouttes against the top of the water better than any color, that's why most baitfish and prey fish have white bellies. By coating my hooks in white I believe that bass have less of a clue that my Osprey is phony, and if that gives me one extra bite, it's worth my time to sit in the garage dipping hooks.
Ok, my skirts up, let's hear from some others. And BTW if GKramer is monitoring this site, please don't steal this thread for your own article like you did the "Perfect Swimbait" discussion of a few weeks ago. Or at least pay Rob royalities if you do.
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RE: Big Bait Secrets,
swimbait,
Nov 16th 2003, #1
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
Mattlures,
Nov 16th 2003, #2
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
Phil,
Nov 16th 2003, #3
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
swimbait,
Nov 17th 2003, #4
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
PHISHnutS,
Nov 18th 2003, #5
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
BassinPatrick,
Nov 21st 2003, #6
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
brian,
Nov 21st 2003, #7
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
BassinPatrick,
Nov 22nd 2003, #10
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
Carrot Top,
Nov 22nd 2003, #11
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
BMXbasser,
Nov 22nd 2003, #12
RE: Big Bait Secrets,
SWMB8R,
Nov 23rd 2003, #13
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swimbait | Sun Nov-16-03 02:05 PM |
Charter member
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#3227, "RE: Big Bait Secrets"
In response to Reply # 0
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There were some good ones in that article. Mark's thing with the teaser rig is legit. Mike L's thing with the crankbait lip and the hook masking was interesting. Turning that crankbait lip idea into something useful is gonna require a lot of baits and a lot of tweaking. Probably something most people won't take the time to mess with. That's the real secret in stuff like that. Taking the time to do it.
You want a swimbait secret? I'll give you one. If you want to catch the really big ones, pick out only lures that look like trout. Really huge fish want trout. They'll take trout over anything else. Bluegill type baits and thin profile minnow baits will catch more numbers of fish, but full on trout baits will catch the giants. Out of those baits that really look like trout, pick out only baits that have two hooks on them. Then out of those baits, invest your time into the hardbaits. The baits where when you get whacked, you're putting the fish in the boat 9 out of 10 times. That way when you do get the one in 10,000 casts hit, you actually catch the fish. I'm not giving this tip as a tournament tip, I'm giving it as a trophy bass tip. I get very few bites these days on swimbaits, but when I do get bit, it's probably gonna be something big.
There was a comment in the mag about getting toward 90% on hookup ratio. You can't do that on rubber baits. It's simply impossible. Anyone who says they can get 90% out of a rubber bait, I would love to hear about it. I'm gonna pick on Fish Chris for a second cuz I know he can take it :) and say this also. Some guys don't feel like the swipes and bumps count as bites. I saw, screw that. I wanna get those fish too! I've caught quite a few fish outside the head, especially on the Slammer. That's fair game in my book. If a fish bumps my bait or nips at it, I want a super sharp hook with the leverage of a hard bait to get the hook in the fish. I haven't caught any giants like this YET, but I'm sure it will happen at some point. I almost put the hook in a 15 at Poway last year that rolled on a rubber swimbait I was fishing. If that had been wood, I probably would have got the fish. No telling if I still would have got the strike, but what if?! You wouldn't throw a rubber crankbait would you? What about a crankbait with only one hook on the front? You probably wouldn't throw that either. That's my food for thought for this post.
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BassinPatrick | Sat Nov-22-03 05:12 PM |
Member since Nov 29th 2002
93 posts
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#3270, "RE: Big Bait Secrets"
In response to Reply # 7
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well i see your point and everything, and its not like i lie about this stuff, i mean if i take someone fishing or even if i go in someone elses boat i will throw them just as much as if im by myself, and they just ridicule me, and when they see it for themselves they see it as a fluke, so if they dont want to do what i am doing that is their decision. and if someone asks me what i caught the big fish on ill tell em you know stocker trout or whatever. they either think i am lying or just like the others, they think its a fluke. i tried to promote it here but these ppl dont want any part of it, so for the last year i have stopped worrying about it and concentrating on just fishing and its payed off. but yea its not like i guard it with 2 rottweilers or something, i just dont let the info 'fly'. its kinda like rob. he stopped posting reports to help himself, and i cant blame the guy. but yes it is for self benifit and who doesnt like that? -patrick ________________________ Assalt Lures http://www.assalt.com Big Hammer http://www.swimbait.com Catch and Release!
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