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fongsterSun Jul-09-06 11:54 PM
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#8139, "Attaching big baits?"


          

What do you guys like on the nose eyelet of your big wood or plastic trout plugs...a Split Ring? A Snap--if so what kind? Something else? Thanks.



  

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RE: Attaching big baits?, SWMB8R, Jul 10th 2006, #1
RE: Attaching big baits?, Lamibass, Jul 10th 2006, #2
RE: Attaching big baits?, nscharfe, Jul 10th 2006, #3
      RE: Attaching big baits?, SWMB8R, Jul 10th 2006, #4
           RE: Attaching big baits?, Lightninrod, Jul 10th 2006, #5
                RE: Attaching big baits?, fongster, Jul 10th 2006, #6
RE: Attaching big baits?, swimbait, Jul 11th 2006, #7

SWMB8RMon Jul-10-06 07:36 AM
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#8140, "RE: Attaching big baits?"
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Mon Jul-10-06 07:37 AM by SWMB8R

  

          

Nothing for the most part. I don't think that adding a snap or split ring to a rubber bait adds any action.

If i'm using a slammer, I use a heavy snap just to get more slapping on the surface.

As far as the kind of snap, I use the Berkley Cross Lock (90 pound I think). I've never had one of those pop open but I have had the standard snap come open on me.

  

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LamibassMon Jul-10-06 08:00 AM
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#8141, "RE: Attaching big baits?"
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New guy here, been throwing swimbaits a lot the past couple of months and it is a new style of bass fishing for me as far as rods and tackle goes . I like to use a snap. I found some snaps at a musky tackle shop that I like they are called Stringease Stay Lok snaps and they are strong. HTH:-)

  

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nscharfeMon Jul-10-06 09:46 AM
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#8142, "RE: Attaching big baits?"
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Is it necessary to use a snap on the stocker trout? I always have just b/c I didnt want to take the chance of the wire from the trap rig rubbing on the knot.

--nate

  

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SWMB8RMon Jul-10-06 10:00 AM
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#8143, "RE: Attaching big baits?"
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I've caught hundreds of bass on the Stocker and I have never broken one off due to the wire or crimp.

Now that I've said that... I'm sure to on the next fish.

  

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LightninrodMon Jul-10-06 04:13 PM
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#8144, "RE: Attaching big baits?"
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These are strong enough to work:

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/descpage-BCLSS.html


Dan

"Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less"

Deo Vindice

  

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fongsterMon Jul-10-06 11:41 PM
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#8145, "RE: Attaching big baits?"
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Thanks, those cross-locks are tuna tough, never had a prob with them opening on a YFT or other pelagic.

  

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swimbaitTue Jul-11-06 03:39 PM
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#8146, "RE: Attaching big baits?"
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I would consider two criteria when deciding whether to use a snap or not.

The first is knot strength. A snap can improve knot strength when the line tie is very thick (like on an MS Slammer). A snap can also improve knot stregth for baits with strong head movement where the knot would chafe against the line tie during the retrieve (like Triple Trout).

The second thing to consider is bait action. A snap ensures that the bait pivots on the line tie consistently. To understand this, tie on a zara spook some time and cinch the knot down tight. Try walking the dog with the knot pushed up toward the top of the eye. Then push it down below the eye and try. You'll see the difference in the action. This is why they always suggested a rapala knot on the back of the Rapala package :) Big baits, especially wood baits are the same way so you can use a snap to eliminate the inconsistency.

Here's a list of baits where I use a snap...

MS Slammer
Monster Jack
Triple Trout
Live Trout Hardbait
Castaic Trout Softbait or Hardbait
Any of the AC Plug type baits
Castaic Platinum

I'll use a #6 owner hyperwire split ring on the nose of the Live Trout Sofbait sometimes also for subtlety but that's the only time I tie to a split ring on a big bait.

Here's a list of baits where I don't use a snap

Hudd
Stocker Trout
Optimum
Any of the Mattlures baits
any boot tail swimbait

Like anything, you shouldn't get stuck in some mentality like 'I am always going to use a snap' or 'I am never going to use a snap'. It's always best to try with and without and just see what works better. A recent example of this for me was the Platinum. I thought that the bait would not need a snap at first but after using it I realized that the action was easily affected if the knot got crooked on the eye of the bait so I started using a snap on that bait to ensure that it swam as straight as possible.

-Rob

  

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