I've spent all morning searching the net, and here is what i've found:S R Plastics in Santee Ca. (16" snake) 14.40/dozen----Thorne Bros. Delong (16" snake) 3.49 ea.---Anglersarsenal.com Western Plastics (16" snake) 5/10.50 619-697-9869-Lurepros.com (17.5" Flat tail worm) 10/15.00 909-797-8775AA Worms in San Diego area also sells a 16" worm for about 3.00 ea.I know I've seen some 18" worms somewhere.