When I throw a swimbait it's usually a underhand deal. I'm more accurate throwing at cover underhand kinda like Jimmy Houston does a spinnerbait. There is just a quarter size tender spot on the top of my shoulder. It kinda hurts when I take my shirt off. IT's not unbearable by anymeans but when I sleep on my side it does effect me. I've put the swimbait rod up for a few trips and it' seems to be getting better but not by a whole lot. I'm gonna bear this out a little longer and see if it fixes itself. If not I'll go to the doc. I agree with you Rob I need to work out more. But guiding is in full swing right now. I should have thought about that this winter when I was bored LOL