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RODSNAPPERSun Apr-20-03 11:02 AM
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#9379, "Berkley Iron Silk"


          

Your thoughts and comments on this line are always appreciated.

I used it for some blade fishing yesterday (12lb) and was fairly impressed by it. The only drawback was I felt the fish could SEE the line (I was using the low-vis green, not the flourescent lime colored geeen)

I also did some C-rigging with it, and I could see it 3ft down with my polarized lenses. I guess if I could see it, so could the fish.
It is EXTREMELY strong and abrasion resistant, and casted well!

I'm shopping "Super-mono" lines for buzz-baits, and Hawg fishing @ night.(Summer! It's just around the corner)

Anyone try this line in 4,6,or 8lb?

Please let me know your opinion.

Thanks!

"ROD"

  

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RE: Berkley Iron Silk, hooksetter, Apr 20th 2003, #1
RE: Berkley Iron Silk, RODSNAPPER, Apr 21st 2003, #3
      RE: Berkley Iron Silk, Rapala, Apr 28th 2003, #15
RE: Berkley Iron Silk, fongster, Apr 21st 2003, #2
RE: Berkley Iron Silk, RODSNAPPER, Apr 21st 2003, #4
      RE: Berkley Iron Silk, salmonoid 1, Apr 21st 2003, #5
           RE: Berkley Iron Silk, hooksetter, Apr 21st 2003, #6
                RE: Berkley Iron Silk, RODSNAPPER, Apr 22nd 2003, #7
                RE: Berkley Iron Silk, Hawgsticker, Apr 22nd 2003, #8
                     RE: Berkley Iron Silk, salmonoid 1, Apr 22nd 2003, #9
                     RE: Berkley Iron Silk, RODSNAPPER, Apr 22nd 2003, #10
RE: Berkley Iron Silk, JerryG, Apr 23rd 2003, #11
RE: Berkley Iron Silk, hooksetter, Apr 23rd 2003, #12
      RE: Berkley Iron Silk, RODSNAPPER, Apr 24th 2003, #13
      RE: Berkley Iron Silk, JerryG, Apr 24th 2003, #14

hooksetterSun Apr-20-03 07:02 PM
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#9382, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Just for the sake of conversation, have you tried Power Pro. It's a braid that is thin, strong and sensitive as hell. It's great for night fishing and flipping.

  

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RODSNAPPERMon Apr-21-03 10:34 AM
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#9388, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Yes! Power Pro is Great!

I used it at the Delta last year with very good results.
In the braid category, nothing compares to it in my opinion.

I'm trying a handful of these "Super Mono's". I just want a strong, memory free, sensitive line that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
(I know Flourocarbon fits the bill, but that is a different conversation)

Thanks for weighing in!

"ROD"

  

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RapalaMon Apr-28-03 07:16 PM
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#9499, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Mon Apr-28-03 07:18 PM by Rapala

  

          

Hi there!

My name is Max and I am originally from Sweden but I will stay in CA until June.

Recently I bought Power Pro and I have to say that it's the best braided line I have ever tried. I use it with a Calcutta 400TE, and the combination is great. Among the other braided lines, I think that FireLine is really good, mostly for spinning reels since it's a bit stiff for baitcasters. By the way, has anyone tried the new Spiderline Stealth?


Of the monofilament lines I have tried, Berkley Sensithin, Ron Thompson Dynacable and Ande are some of the best.

The worst lines I have used are Spiderline Fusion, which decomposes after 2 times. On the monofilament side, South Bend (obviously;)) is the worst.

Tight Lines

Max

/The worst fishing trip is better than the best day in school/

  

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fongsterMon Apr-21-03 08:30 AM
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#9386, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Personally, I don't dig it. It practically glows in the water and is a lot fatter than comparible test lines. I couldn't get bit at Perris with it until I tied on a 3 foot leader of green Maxima. I went back to trilene xl for my lighter line uses. A friend who is a very good fisherman found it to cast weird on his baitcaster--hard to control, got fluffed easily, kinda lashy. I thought it cast well on a spinner but with all the drawbacks mentioned I stopped using it.


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RODSNAPPERMon Apr-21-03 10:41 AM
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#9389, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Fong!

Totally agree! I think the line was spooking the heck out of the fish. I had no trouble with lashing, in fact, it casts very well.

If they made this in gun-metal gray or clear, I'd probably buy it all the time.

I'm an Ultra Green Max guy, and I'm sick of the memory. I'm ultra happy with the strength and abrasion resitance, but it coils like a chick with a perm!

I may try blood knotting a 4ft flourocarbon leader, like you did...but I just wish someone could come out with the "PERFECT" line.

Maybe I'm just too nit-picky!

Thanks for the help, I'll keep you posted on the other lines I'm going to field test.

"ROD"

  

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salmonoid 1Mon Apr-21-03 03:12 PM
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#9397, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Mon Apr-21-03 03:16 PM by salmonoid 1

          

I was just talked into spooling up a spinning reel with my first spool of Maxima (clear because I use 100% flourocarbon leader) but from what you say I can expect excess memory. I will be trying it next week. I have also heard that Maxima's performance declines with use more than other lines (gets stiff?). Fortunately I will have a variety of lines with me. What do you think of P-Line?
Bob

  

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hooksetterMon Apr-21-03 03:30 PM
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#9399, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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I have used P-Line for some time now; 6lb, 8lb and 10lb. Seems that it doesn't fair well with spinning reels, especially when drop shotting. Lots of memory and coils like a beotch. Does fine on baitcasters though. Can be stiff but I think a lot of my interpretation of stiffness is because the P-Line has like no stretch at all. The 8lb is very strong. If you get snagged it can be tough to break your line off.
BMC

  

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RODSNAPPERTue Apr-22-03 07:39 AM
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#9408, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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I LOVE the P-line Flouroclear, HATE the CXX green, and I'm very impressed so far with the new "True" Flourocarbon. The only thing that is negative about the new stuff is that it is $18-20 bucks.

If you spool up ultra green max on spinning gear, try soaking the spool in hot water for about 5 minutes. This helps keep the Coiling down a bit. Max does get stiff, but if you stretch the line out buy tying off about 100-150 yards to a tree or post and pull on it (Not too much!) It will lay better on Baitcasting reels.

Just my 2-cents!

"ROD"

  

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HawgstickerTue Apr-22-03 08:54 AM
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#9409, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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I have been usingthe P-Line CX on my spinning gear for some time now and I cannot figure out what you are talking about when it comes to memory. I have had 0 problems with memory from P-Line CX. This weekend I fished with Vince(theblankslate) on the Delta and he talked me into spooling up some of his 15lb Yozuri. Let me tell you, that stuff is strong. It performed really well for me. I am gonna stick with it for now.

Here fishy, fishy, fishy......

Clay

  

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salmonoid 1Tue Apr-22-03 03:12 PM
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#9412, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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This discussion about lines is very informative from all who replied. Factors that those who have something negative or positive to say about a line should always include in their comments (most do) is a) for which purpose are you evaluating a line (e.g., drop shotting, cranking, etc.), b) spinning or baitcasting, c) what pound test, d) water clarity, etc.. Of course, different lines may be preferable for differnt purposes and conditions.
Bob

  

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RODSNAPPERTue Apr-22-03 04:13 PM
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#9415, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Tue Apr-22-03 06:53 PM by RODSNAPPER

          

A weird thing happened to me the last time I bought/spooled up 6lb P-line CX. (On my Chronarch SF) for drop-shotting.

I'm willing to bet that I got some "Out of Code" line from a bad spool.(Think of out-dated milk that goes bad)The line was "FRAYING" like yarn on my casts and retrieves. The first thing I did was check my rod guides with a Q-tip, and all was OK! so I ruled that out, secondly, I was in grass with a sandy bottom, so the structure should not have been too much of a factor (It very well could have been!)
Then, in the middle of a working my last cast back before switching reels, Yep! I get bit.....SET!....Break off! (No surprise do to the line condition) needless to say I was HEATED! My fault! I admit it. I gambled that the line would hold up, well,....more like PRAYED it would! BIG LOSE!

I think the new Flourocarbon from P-line is the Jet! I like it way better than Sugoi (Please DON'T FREAK OUT) read on!

Sugoi is excellent line with many positive features, but NEVER on Spinning! Please don't take my word for it, by all means spend the $19.99 and decide for yourself. My personal opinion is that it is too stiff for my taste, and the fact that you only get about 50 yards does not make it financially attractive either.

Many pals of mine have had success with it by "Blood-knotting" it to mono backing already on their baitcasters. I've also heard it lasts a very long time as GOOD true Flourocarbon's do before you have to re-spool.

I've used it, and it has always been just OK. I also notice that I over-run like Forrest Gump with Sugoi, and I don't with the "Softer" flouro-coated lines like P-Line Flouroclear.

If I were to invest in 1/4 pound or larger spools, I'd buy the P-line Flouroclear for 4/6/8/10lb and if I needed true flourocarbon;
I like the new 8lb P-line in the Royal blue box.

I have 15lb Flouroclear spooled up right now on one of my baitcasters, and it has been GREAT!

Anything 12/15/20lb is clear Big Game Trilene or Flouroclear until I find something I like better or fits a specific need.

Keep Hawg Tossin'!!

"ROD"

  

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JerryGWed Apr-23-03 03:49 AM
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#9423, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Ok here's my take. If I was given stren, Trilene, or Berkely spools for free I still wouldn't fish any of them. I have no confidence in their strength or ability to get bit. I know there may be some fans of these lines reading this. I'm sure that they do make some production lines which are good but I have had no luck with them and every chance I gave them resulted in lost fish.

I don't know why they find it necessary to add neon tint to their lines. the fish see that stuff from a mile away. I once fished with a friend and we where both using the same lures, both of us were using 6lb test. I had on Maxima green and he was using Stren (some clear floresent blue color). Towards the end of the trip after I had caught my 15th bass and he still had not got bit once. He finally broke down and spliced on a leader we cut from my line. He started catching fish immediately. I've had similar experiences on two other trips with friends who made the same choice in line selection. Now here's the reason that I don't fish any of these lines. They have all popped on me with a minimal amount of pressure and no abbrasion. Another experience that comes to mind was a yellowtail bite I was on when I popped three fish off in a row on Berkely 20. Both me and my friend who also bought a spool to try out were popping off fish. I reached for my rod spooled with Ande 15 lb and started bringing fish to the boat.

On the lighter lines I like both P-Line or Maxima. I like fishing line with color. I'm not talking about neon blue flourescent either. I like green especially but blue or even pink in the heavier lines will do. I will tie on a flourocarbon leader when the conditions call for it. On the heavier lines (12-80+) I like fishing either Ande or Izorine. These lines have proven their strength to me time and time again. It's not too often that you will see either of these products advertise their line but they don't seem to need it. Those are my line picks so feel free to comment good or bad. I recommend that others fish which ever line they have the most confidence in and if they are breaking off fish they need to realize it's time to change line labels. See you on the water. Tight lines.

JerryG

  

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#9433, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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One thing I think that needs to be mentioned in all this good line input is not only one's personal opinions from line experiences but also the equipment it is used on and how the individual fishes. I say this because I am a hardcore fan of berkley big game in 10 and 12 pound test. I have caught numerous bass over ten pounds on the 10 pound test, some in the sticks. The reason why it works so well for me is because I like and use medium-heavy rods (broom sticks) Even my spinning rods are medium-heavy. I also have a habit of setting the hook like a mad man which requires a line with a little "give" or stretch in it. When I fish with lines that are much stiffer, I often break off on hook sets or even rip the bait from the fish's mouth. I am working on changing that style when using lines like 6 and 8 pound P-line. I just spooled up with the new P-line pure flourocarbon on a baitcaster and was very, very impressed with how it casted. I didn't spend enough time fishing it to get bit on it so I will have to wait to see what I think about it. Remember though folks that most lines are all pretty good in the strength department. What one fella likes or dislikes about a particular line might have more to do with his or her equipment and fishing style rather than the line itself. Just another point of view.

  

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RODSNAPPERThu Apr-24-03 07:36 AM
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#9442, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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Great points from both Jerry and HOOK

I'm all typed out!...but will take all of the wonderful advice from everyone and make some educated choices after some more field trials.

Thanks again for all of the opinions and advice!

"ROD"

  

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JerryGThu Apr-24-03 12:41 PM
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#9449, "RE: Berkley Iron Silk"
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I agree with Hookset and I think he's made some very valid points. Line performance can be greatly affected by the the equipment it's being used on and the conditions it's being used in.

JerryG

  

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