Moondoggie | Sun Feb-10-02 02:09 PM |
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#4764, "Broken Loomis. : ("
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Woke up early to finally get out my Loomis IM6 9weight flyrod to fish the harbor. Get into the parking lot, setting up as I go. I am feeding line through the guides, not putting much bend in the rod and KKKRRRAAAKKKK....... the rod folds in two.
Now I know what you are thinking, what are you doing Marco, 'high-sticking a flyrod'? but the break was about 8 inches from the joint, not anywhere near the tip.
I seem to remember that Loomis has a lifetime guarntee????
Who and where do I send the rod to?
thanks......
MoonDoggie Santa Barbara, CA
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monster1 | Sun Feb-10-02 08:45 PM |
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#4766, "RE: Broken Loomis. : ("
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seems everyone thinks that if you have top of the line stuff, it won't ever fail. i fish with garcia, quantum, berkley, and shakespere. all middle line stuff, no junk. this tackle has served me well for many fished hard years. i have never had my tackle fail me when i know it probably should have. i take care of my stuff and it has taken care of me. just kind of funny how you can spend $250 on a rod and have a $29.95er outlast it. lol. i do hear that the loomis warranty is a lifetime warranty but its hard to get a broken rod warranteed, if it weren't, i'd probably buy one.
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Fishin Magician | Mon Feb-11-02 03:28 PM |
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#4767, "RE: Broken Loomis. : ("
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That's because higher quality (stiffer and lighter) graphite is much more brittle than softer graphite or glass/graph composite blends. Any high quality graphite rod will break much easier than most cheaper rods. I think Loomis does have a lifetime warranty, so you shouldn't have any trouble getting a replacement.
TL, Adam
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Fishslayer | Mon Feb-11-02 10:47 PM |
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#4768, "Higher Quality=Stiffer & Lighter?"
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Mon Feb-11-02 10:49 PM
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JMO but "fragile" does NOT equal high quality when it comes to fishing equipment. Granted, fly rods are different animals. If Loomis won't replace it I would look at other makers.
Fishslayer
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Fishin Magician | Tue Feb-12-02 03:45 PM |
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#4769, "RE: Higher Quality=Stiffer & Lighter?"
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It all depends on what you're after... There's no way in hell I'd buy a "fragile" high modulus graphite bait stick for fishing yellows - gotta go fiberglass for that kind of stuff. In the same way, I would hate to fish a soft fiberglass stick in the bay with 6# test when I'm trying to feel the difference between a blade of grass and a spottie breathing on my plastic.
Higher quality graphite is generally considered to be graphite with a higher Young's modulus and lower tensile strength. In other words, it's stiffer (therefore you need less of it to make a certain stiffness or a rod) but has less tensile strength. The chart below might explain it a little better.
http://www.leonadivide.com/adam/stress-strain.gif
TL, Adam
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brian | Mon Feb-11-02 03:48 PM |
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#4770, "RE: Broken Loomis. : ("
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Here's my theory on Loomis rods. The only reason I would want a Loomis rod would be GLX for fishing worms, or finnesse of some type. Other than that, I really don't like the action of Loomis rods, and there are stronger rods out there that are more cost effective. I don't want to pay a bunch of money for a Loomis jerkbait rod, where sensitivity isn't really needed. IMO there's no point in buying a GL2 because there are other companies that make better rods than GL2 Loomises, and for less money. Lots of people (Brian #2) disagree with me and fish Loomis anyway just because it's Loomis, but it's like paying the extra $20 for the Nike name. And, as a direct contradiction to Kelly's post, I do indeed like Castaway rods... I haven't had a problem with workmanship or anything like that, and I think they make a great rod. -Brian
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fongster | Sun Feb-10-02 08:37 PM |
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#4771, "RE: Broken Loomis. : ("
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They have a couple options. One is to send them the rod which they will inspect and will replace if it was defective. Option 2, if you broke it high sticking, car door, threading and bending (LOL), they will sell you a new one for $28, I believe. If you want speedier turn around while they inpect it, you can prepay the $28 and they will refund it if it turns out it was defective on their part. If not, you paid what you were gonna anyway but got your rod quicker. Just call them up for the details. they are a nice stick, I had one hold up thru 8 years of party boat fishing before it went.
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Kiyo | Mon Feb-11-02 04:39 AM |
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#4772, "RE: Broken Loomis. : ("
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Seems like they break too often. Even if they are guaranteed for life I like to have confidence in my gear while fighting a fish. You know what I mean?
Kiyo www.baytubers.com
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dball | Mon Feb-11-02 06:50 AM |
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#4773, "RE: Broken Loomis. : ("
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No rods should break if you take good care of it. But I don't think Loomis rods break any more frequently than other rods. Don't equate volume of rods breaking with the percentage of these rods breaking.
If 1000 people use Loomis rods, and 1% break, thats 10 rods (I think). If 100 people use Shakespeare rods and 1% break, thats just 1 rod. You'll likely hear 10 complaints of the Loomis rods breaking and just 1 about the Shakespeare. The same percentage of Shakespeare rods probably break too, you just don't hear about it because: 1) not as many people are using them, and 2) you expect a Shakespeare rod to break, so those people probably won't post their complaint on here.
Moondoggie, post follow-ups to let us know how Loomis' customer service deals with your problem, I think we'd all benefit from your experience.
** tight lines make all my troubles go away **
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KelDawg1 | Mon Feb-11-02 08:11 AM |
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#4774, "RE: Broken Loomis. : ("
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I broke a Loomis on it's 3rd trip out called them sent it in and it was replaced for free and sent to me in 10 days or less. I have maybe 16 rods if you count the saltwater stuff and all but 4 are Loomis. A superior product in every respect. I was given 5 Castway rods when I bought the boat and thats just what I did. I gave them away as Christmas presents to some kids I know. I know Shimano bought them but it has not changed anything other than ownership as the craftsmanship is still there. Yes you can fish cheaper rods and save a bunch of money! I'm not a snob I just prefer the action,diameter,finish and in my case durability of these rods. I can gaurantee that you won't have a problem with it's replacement....My 02 cents... Kelly
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