RE: Hooking big bass?,
swimbait,
Jun 17th 2003, #1
RE: Hooking big bass?,
socalfrogger,
Jun 17th 2003, #2
RE: Hooking big bass?,
flipper,
Jun 17th 2003, #3
RE: Hooking big bass?,
socalfrogger,
Jun 17th 2003, #4
RE: swimmy swimbait,
brian,
Jun 17th 2003, #6
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brian,
Jun 17th 2003, #5
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RODSNAPPER,
Jun 17th 2003, #8
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swimbait,
Jun 17th 2003, #7
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flipper,
Jun 17th 2003, #9
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swimbait,
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RE: Hooking big bass?,
brian,
Jun 17th 2003, #10
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Kellen,
Jun 17th 2003, #12
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socalfrogger,
Jun 17th 2003, #13
RE: Hooking big bass?,
Kellen,
Jun 17th 2003, #15
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socalfrogger,
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hooksetter,
Jun 17th 2003, #14
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flipper,
Jun 18th 2003, #17
RE: Hooking big bass?,
hooksetter,
Jun 18th 2003, #18
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brian | Tue Jun-17-03 12:10 PM |
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#2912, "RE: swimmy swimbait"
In response to Reply # 4
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Yeah, I get nervous about hooking them on the swimbait sometimes, but the way I sight fish with that bait, and on certain fish, it really needs to have the leadhead on it to give it some movement through the water. Especially if the fish is deep, or off the bed, or any other number of instances. I do try to get em on texas rig whenever possible, but the weird thing is that on the fish which I was forced to use the leadheaded swimbait I haven't lost one. I've only lost the ones where I should've been using texas rig, but didn't... Kind of weird, I'm sure my streak will come crashing down... x( -Brian
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RODSNAPPER | Tue Jun-17-03 12:32 PM |
Member since Jul 24th 2002
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#2914, "RE: Hooking big bass?"
In response to Reply # 5
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I completely concur with all of the responses! These guys KNOW!
My only thought that I would bring to the topic with regards to Texas rigging is to be careful with EWG hooks. Some guys swear by them, and that is FINE! I won't even go there, It is just my personal preference to stay away from them. Go nuts if you like em'!
I'm with Swimbait on the Round Bend Gammies (5/0) I use this hook when throwing 5-inch Senko's and my hook up ratio/catch went way up! Spool up heavy (20lb) and "Fork-Lift" Em'.
I think any decent fish, especially a big one, will thrash around and tear a big hole in there lip with an EWG. This has happened to me more times than I can count, and just when it feels like you "Stuck-Em' Good!... They break water and your EWG comes flying back at you @ 100 miles per hour.
To quote Swimbait on EWG Jigs. "I have a drawer full of them that I will sell you cheap!"
I also LOVE the Sugoi Hook by GYCB. In Fact, that is primarily what I fish with. I just got some 5/0's and MAN! THOSE SUCKER'S ARE SHARP! The G-lock is also an excellent hook, but does have a pretty wide gap. Owner's are also fantastic, and I use a variety of those as well.
The Sugoi Hook is made special for Yamamoto by Gamakatsu. I'm confident that if you T-rig with THAT hook, you'll land those "Farley's"!! BWW carries some of them, or you can order on line.
Best of Luck, and God Bless all of you for your knowledge.
Late!
"ROD"
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Kellen | Tue Jun-17-03 02:07 PM |
Member since Apr 10th 2003
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#2921, "RE: Hooking big bass?"
In response to Reply # 13
Tue Jun-17-03 02:08 PM by Kellen
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Naw...I didnt lose any big ones on Saturday. I got the 8.2 on a texas rig on 15 lb Max, so she didn't have a chance. It was a quick battle. Naw, wasn't me in Barona. We stayed out around grassy, south east shoreline, and north bay for the night. Never ventured to the other side of the lake.
Only fish I lost was on a frog back on the mats in Grassy, and it didn't look too big. Although I thought the 8 was a 4 lber when she jumped the first time.
The fish I was talking about was from last years ECFO, and then this year at the 2nd ABA at Vee. At the ECFO it was a pig that hit a super spook and got it in the side of the head, shook it with ease :(. Then this year I had a monster on 4 lb test on a drop shot and she shook it with ease on the first leap.
You got most of your fish on frogs? You finished in 10th didn't ya? Nice job.
Are you going to Mead? ECFO?
Yeah I hope to get the boat soon, still undecided about what I want, and whether or not I should get used or just finance and retrade every couple years.
Lata
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socalfrogger | Tue Jun-17-03 03:14 PM |
Member since Oct 21st 2002
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#2922, "RE: Hooking big bass?"
In response to Reply # 15
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Well, its looking like I am going to take a position in sales at 3:16 lures (makers of the Mission fish). This is going to free up alot of fishing time so I plan on doing the ECFO this year for sure. Got 2nd in it 2 years ago, but couldnt fish it last year cause of the 'ol 9 to 5 at Shimano.
As far as Mead goes, I know I will be out there for at least on of the punishment sessions. (ABA or WON) I am really going to be concentrating on my Federation fish-off at the Delta on the 25th and 26th of Oct. If I am on fish at the Delta, you will see me for sure at Mead. If I am struggling up north, then I will be up there the weekends before that tourney.
I cant beleive I managed to fish 6 tournament circuits this year and not 1 tournament conflicted with another. Its been a fun year, thats for sure.
Oh yeah, as for the last night tournament, we had a terrible night. We did end up in 10th, but we only caught 5 fish all night. We had a few big blow-ups on the big baits, but they all missed the bait cause I never felt one of them. I have the El Cajon Night tourney this weekend, sounds like Grassy might be a good place to start. I have been going to the other end of the lake every night tourney. Last year, it was great. This year, it has let me down 3 times now. Gotta stir it up next time.
And to get back on the topic of hooking the big ones, we all know there going to jump. I dont hook too many over 10, but I think as long as you keep the line tight and keep pulling on their head, it doesnt really matter if you have the rod up or down. Its the point where the fish shakes her head and creates slack line, the head of the lure or hook follows closely behind and is allowad a little "free movement" due to even 1 inch of slack. I usually try to pull their heads down before they get up, but when they jump, I seem to just keep pulling the rod in the same direction I was the whole time. I hate it when you have to change the angle of your rod to the fish and you can feel the lure shift in the fishes mouth. That almost has the same effect as you changing direction of the hook with your hands and taking it out after you caught her. Theres been enough advice on this topic, so I know this isnt much help over what has been said.
Keep your cool when you hook her, let her do her thing, but be ready for anything and try not to change the angle of the rod to the fish. Thats about all I can think of on that:)
Is it 5 yet!!!!
Cam
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hooksetter | Tue Jun-17-03 02:06 PM |
Member since Feb 27th 2003
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#2920, "RE: Hooking big bass?"
In response to Reply # 0
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Obviously we have a lot of hard core sight fisherman telling it like it truly is. One thing that stands out is how familiar most of the guy's baits are. Sight fishing is my one true vices in life and like all of you, have lost plenty, including a 14 lber that shook under water and the bait came out. I prefer the texas rigged approach too. I don't seem to loose too many at all when using a 2/0 Owner riggin hook texas rigged with a 1/4 oz weight. But when I find a toad, I go to the big stuff which is a large bait (still gotta keep it a secret because the big girls absolutely hate it) It requires a 1/2 oz straight jig head with a long shank. The trick though that has helped is that I add a trailer hook just like on a spinnerbait. You've all seen some toad kind of "gum or lip" the bait, then never really enhale it. This is when the stinger hook comes in handy. Of course, when it comes to the fight, I use 30 and 50 pound test Power Pro braid on an 8-flippin stick with the reel drag locked down. Sometimes I even had to thumb the spool to boss the fish. A really good sight fishing friend of mine told me one time after I farmed a ten on the jump (with my rod tip in the water) that you know how we laugh at those back east guys on TV and how they raise the rod really high on the jump, guess what, it does work if you do like Rob said and leverage the fish against the flow of it's momentum. If she is heading one way and is coming up to shake, lock down and yank her head back the opposite direction (another benefit of a heavy stick with braided line). The 15 I caught a few months ago busted water at least four times but with the drag locked down and after some nervous bossing around she went for the deep run trick which wears them out even faster. The bottom line is that we all do things a little alike and a little different. What most of us do is because of what we have experienced and learned from...the hard way. One thing that immediately comes to mind that might help is to try and stiffle those nerves when you see her finally smack the bait. Seems like the fish I have farmed were the ones I set the hook the instant it disappeared. Now I try to wait another second to make sure she has it and set with boat rocking force not once, but twice sometimes to get that hook to cut through. Damn, now I want to sight fishing...lol.
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hooksetter | Wed Jun-18-03 12:02 PM |
Member since Feb 27th 2003
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#2933, "RE: Hooking big bass?"
In response to Reply # 17
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If it makes you feel any better about the two tens, I lost a 12 and a 14 in the same hour one day. The 14 I had five hours into her.
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