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Salmonoid | Mon Nov-19-01 09:24 AM |
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#4024, "Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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Based on the calfishing rod article, posts, and immediate availability I have narrowed down my choice for a backup calico rod to the following alternatives. I prefer Calstar for a first rod, but which one of the following do you recommend as best for a second rod for Calico 555 reef type of fishing with 15 pound test and swimbaits on 1/2 - 1 1/2 oz. leadheads?
1. 12-25, 1/2 - 2, 8',heavy, fast, St. Croix TC80HF.
2. 10-20, 1/2 - 1, 7', medium heavy, fast, St. Croix TC70MHF.
3. 12-25, 3/8 - 1 1/2, 7', medium heavy, action-taper?, Fenwick GW70CMH.
4. 12-25, 3/8 - 1,7', medium heavy, action-taper?, Fenwick GTC70MHST.
5. 6 - 17, lure weights?, 8', action-taper?, Fenwick HMXT83ML-2.
Also, is the presence or absence of a trigger grip important for this application?
Thank you very much. I value your opinions.
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RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
Sea Chaser,
Nov 19th 2001, #1
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
brian,
Nov 19th 2001, #3
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
salmonoid,
Nov 20th 2001, #7
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
brian,
Nov 20th 2001, #8
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
fongster,
Nov 19th 2001, #4
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
CalicoHunter,
Nov 19th 2001, #2
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
salmonoid,
Nov 20th 2001, #5
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
Leapin Bass,
Nov 20th 2001, #6
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
brian,
Nov 20th 2001, #9
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
Leapin Bass,
Nov 20th 2001, #10
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
salmonoid,
Nov 21st 2001, #11
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
CalicoHunter,
Nov 21st 2001, #12
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
brian,
Nov 21st 2001, #13
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
Leif,
Nov 21st 2001, #14
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
brian,
Nov 21st 2001, #15
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
Leif,
Nov 22nd 2001, #16
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
salmonoid,
Nov 22nd 2001, #17
RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan,
Leapin Bass,
Nov 22nd 2001, #18
Pete,
salmonoid,
Nov 23rd 2001, #19
RE: Pete,
Leapin Bass,
Nov 24th 2001, #20
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Sea Chaser | Mon Nov-19-01 10:02 AM |
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#4025, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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Larry recommended this rod to me for 15#.
Shimano Calcutta 815XFA
It works great - light and sensitive with plenty of backbone.
I also bought the 812XFA for my 12# outfit and will get an 820 soon.
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salmonoid | Tue Nov-20-01 09:35 AM |
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#4027, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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Very good Brian. Is the Kalfishing Kalico Klan an Affiliate of Larry's Qalico Army In Defense of Angling (Al Qaida), a group that terrorizes calicos? I myself am a former member of the SS (Salmon Society).
Bob
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fongster | Mon Nov-19-01 07:48 PM |
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#4029, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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Mon Nov-19-01 07:51 PM
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I concur--the XFA815 is my choice but as my PRIMARY rod for 15#. I also love the Loomis L905 but it is only available as a blank for custom rods--it's not as fast as the shimano though.
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CalicoHunter | Mon Nov-19-01 02:04 PM |
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#4030, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
In response to Reply # 0
Mon Nov-19-01 02:06 PM
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Mr Salmonoid, First of all whats your real name? so I may adress you by that, second I perfer a pretty stiff fast to extrafast action thats all graphite,as Dan (Seachaser)said I really like the shimano calcutta rods, but they are a little pricey.Im not familar with any of the rods you have listed,again I fish shimano and loomis rods exclusively,but Ive found that stock rack rods are WAY overated on their line recomodations, so with out handling those rods to check for stiffness and action I would recomend you lean towards the ones rated for 15-25lb line for you 15lb plastic set up.Also those allstar graphite rods are very nice rods for the money,and if had to by a plastic stick on a budget those are the rods I would seriosly look at. Also a little trick to check a rod for sensitivity, gently drag the tip of the rod across the linoleum floor,you should be able to feel the texture of the tile through the rod,if you cant feel it, put the rod back on the shelf! All quality factory wrap rod usually have triggers on them. Hope this helps..Larry
Real fish are measured in pounds - not inches!
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salmonoid | Tue Nov-20-01 09:09 AM |
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#4031, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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Thanks to everyone. My main problem is still availability of the recommended rods. My previous list of choices only included available rods.Here are my availability problems.
1. I have not found a Shimano Calcutta rod in the SB area or in a catalog. Where can I find it?
2. All but one of the Allstar rods that I have seen are 7'. I found one 8' Allstar rod. It is rated at 12-30, but does not have a lure weight rating or other information. Is this the Allstar rod that is being recommended for 15 lb, 1/2 - 1 1/2 oz.?
3. The only Loomis rod that I have seen that is close to the recommended specs is 7'10", 10-17 lb, 1/4 - 1 oz, X fast, power "Mag M". model # MBR941C. Is this too light for 15 lb, 1/2 - 1 1/2 oz,?
Thanks again.
Bob
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salmonoid | Wed Nov-21-01 10:46 AM |
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#4035, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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Thanks Larry. Do you know where in the SB area or online that I can checkout the Allstar, Loomis, and Shimano Calcutta rods?
Bob
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Leif | Wed Nov-21-01 07:54 PM |
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#4038, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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i got a calcutta CT820XFA from insidesportfishing.com. it was supposedly back ordered for a month, but i got it in two weeks. very good service, even called me to tell me it was back ordered. highly recommend them.
o rite, no affiliation or wutever u want me to type here. -leif-
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Leif | Thu Nov-22-01 08:01 AM |
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#4040, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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hay man had to cover my butt just incase hahaha.
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salmonoid | Thu Nov-22-01 01:11 PM |
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#4041, "RE: Rod question for Larry Heron & his calico clan"
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Thanks to all for your recommendations. Based on immediate availability, I bought the St. Croix TC80XHXF. However, from what some of you are saying this choice for my 15 lb.calico rod is OK but I will need another calico rod for tossing on 12 lb.
Thanks again. I hope that we all learned something from each other's opinions.
Bob
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salmonoid | Fri Nov-23-01 01:15 PM |
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#4043, "Pete"
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I found the St. Croix in the Offshore Angler catalog. This is a BassPro company, but this model is not one of the St. Croix rods in the Bass Pro catalog. The rod has not arrived yet.
Bob
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