RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0,
magmaster,
May 03rd 2005, #1
RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0,
Urban,
May 03rd 2005, #2
RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0,
SWMB8R,
May 03rd 2005, #3
RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0,
magmaster,
May 03rd 2005, #4
RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0,
Mattlures,
May 03rd 2005, #5
RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0,
nscharfe,
May 03rd 2005, #6
RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0,
woodsac,
May 03rd 2005, #7
Great ideas, thanks guys!,
Urban,
May 03rd 2005, #8
RE: Great ideas, thanks guys!,
Mattlures,
May 03rd 2005, #9
Heres what I did,
Urban,
May 04th 2005, #10
Update,
Urban,
May 14th 2005, #11
ROF 0 for Sale,
Urban,
May 15th 2005, #12
RE: ROF 0 for Sale,
Josh D,
May 17th 2005, #13
RE: ROF 0 for Sale,
swimbait,
May 17th 2005, #14
Well, I really learn the hard way,
Urban,
May 18th 2005, #15
RE: Well, I really learn the hard way,
swimbait,
May 18th 2005, #16
RE: Well, I really learn the hard way,
bassinzink,
May 18th 2005, #17
RE: Well, I really learn the hard way,
Mattlures,
May 18th 2005, #18
RE: Well, I really learn the hard way,
CV,
Jun 06th 2005, #19
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woodsac | Tue May-03-05 01:59 PM |
Member since Jul 17th 2002
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#6204, "RE: "Fixing" the ROF 0"
In response to Reply # 6
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If you use a dropshot or mojo weight, you could attach a short piece of line to the weight before you insert it. Just leave 1/2" or so sticking out of the hole. That way you can easily remove it if you need to. It won't affect the action and isn't big enough to bother the fish :-)
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Urban | Tue May-03-05 05:52 PM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
402 posts
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#6209, "Great ideas, thanks guys!"
In response to Reply # 7
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Several comments. I did stick my rod in the water to try and achieve slight depth. I still had to reel too fast, and on long casts even that wouldnt work until the bait was somewhat close. Plus, I wasnt sure I would be able to set the hook if I got bit.
Matt, you suggest putting a weight both fore and aft of the stinger harness? Guess that means I have to poke a hole in the bait, right?
What Im gonna do is fill a bucket full of water, then attach mojo weights first by rubber bands until I achieve what I want. Then Ill insert them into the hole! I really dont want to poke a new hole in the bait since I would then have to seal it, and my 0 will never be a 0 again.
Great idea about the fishing line and removal.
What Id really like to do is find some tungsten nail weights, the smaller size likely would be easier on the bait during insertion, plus they wouldnt add unneccessary bulk to the bait.
I let everyone know what happens.
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Urban | Wed May-04-05 11:17 AM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
402 posts
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#6217, "Heres what I did"
In response to Reply # 9
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I wanted the ROF 0 to fall very slowly, even much slower than the 5, so here is what I did.
I took mojo weights, and some slender drop shot weights with the swivels removed (the only things I had at home, others things would have been better). I filled a bucket of water to the top, then wrapped a rubber band around the middle of the bait. Next, I experimented with weights putting them under the rubber band on the belly. First finding, these baits are very sensitive to even slight weight changes. Once I found the amount of weight I wanted, I then took the rubber band off. I found that even the weight of the rubber band influenced the fall of the bait. Thus, I started over by taping each weight to the belly with as small a piece of scotch tape as possible. Be careful, I found that the scotch tape will pull some of the paint off the bait.
Turns out, I had to take pliers and very carefully remove A LITTLE lead at a time to achieve exactly what I wanted. Once I had the weight I wanted I lubbed it up with smelly jelly to avoid tearing the bait during insertion. I found that there is no room to push the weight through the hole and towards the tail. To do so you will have to push the weight through solid plastic. So what I had to do was push the weight through the hole towards the head, and it now sits to one side of the factory weight, you can not perfectly center this weight. The weight has deformed the bait slightly, but even though the weight sits to one side, the bait falls horizontally. And, the weight is easily removed, you can push it around with your fingers through the plastic. I did not seal the hole, although I may after I see how the bait fishes.
Sorry this is long, Im procrastinating like a big dog at work today. Im very happy with the results, cant wait to throw it this weekend. Thanks to all for the input.
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Urban | Sun May-15-05 01:50 PM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
402 posts
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#6273, "ROF 0 for Sale"
In response to Reply # 11
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Thats it, Im done with the zero, modified or not. I cant hook fish on this thing. Anybody have any suggestions on how to get better hookups with just the one treble on the belly?
Right off the bat yesterday I lose one pushing 10 halfway to the boat (nice, big jump:o) on the zero, then a little later had about an 8 go ballistic, jumping everywhere, right at the boat it pops off. I look at my bait and not only is it mangled, but the spit ring looked like a pretzel, Ive never seen that happen before. Guess I should have heeded the warnings and bought the hyperwires. I guess some peopld have to learn the hard way.
Put the 12 back on and got one good one, so I salvaged the trip.
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swimbait | Wed May-18-05 01:11 PM |
Charter member
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#6291, "RE: Well, I really learn the hard way"
In response to Reply # 15
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Dude I hate to say it, but the heartland rod is going to cost you fish on the hudd guaranteed. The tip is just too soft and not enough backbone. The Crucial extra heavy or the Okuma heavy would be a lot better option. I fish the Okuma heavy for that bait myself.
The reason everyone (myself included) learns the hard way on big bass is because big bass don't bite, fight, and pull like small bass do. And until you hook quite a few of them, you don't understand the dynamics of what is going on. People might catch hundreds of 2 to 6lb bass on a setup with few problems, and then they get drilled by a giant and all of a sudden things start to go wrong like bent hooks, pulled out split rings, broken line, not enough backbone in the rod, handle too small on the reel, etc. The easy thing to do is to chalk it up to bad luck but I say screw that! Bad luck happens, but the right gear can minimize the luck factor by orders of magnitude.
Honestly though, most people I meet and talk to are just too stubborn to listen to what I have to say about gear until they themselves get burned. Even then a lot of people stick to the gear they got burned on because 'it worked in fine in the past'. Hell I can't even get CV to change some of his swimbait gear and I've been bugging him about it since we started fishing together LOL. I personally don't understand that attitude, and I adapt my gear on an ongoing basis based on real concrete evidence. If I'm losing and missing fish, I change until the problem stops. If that means that I completely stop using a certain lure, then I stop using the lure. If that means I have to change knots or line styles or rods or reels or hookset angle or anything like that, I do it. My percentages this year are better than ever before as a result and you guys can do it to. Its not some big secret, its just trial and error.
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bassinzink | Wed May-18-05 01:48 PM |
Member since Jan 11th 2003
968 posts
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#6292, "RE: Well, I really learn the hard way"
In response to Reply # 16
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I couldn't agree more with ya on that about gear rob. I was using just a regular flipping stick to throw a frog and it worked great on average size fish, but I had the worst luck getting the bigger fish to the boat. I finally got a rod with some real backbone and it has made a big difference in getting those double hooks penetrated into the fish's grill. :7 cz
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